Goget has to be weaker than Jiren, or Goku and Vegeta would have tried it on him. Base stronger than SSG? You can't beat what you can't touch. The Buu fought by Gotenks was not a fusion of the strongest fighters around, it was just Buu absorbing Buu. MUI Vegetto would godstomp. But the other problem, these two would never be comparable fusions anyway. a suppressed Jiren can also do that and keep in mind that Champa was genuinely afraid of Kaioken X10 Super Saiyan Blue Goku so i really don't see any GoDs being any more than KKX20 tier. A hypothetical character vs an almost completely featless character. The Holy Dream. For one thing, UI doesn't really seem to be a massive power increase. Amonfire1776. VS. Who wins? Beerus Vs Whis. and Gogeta is too slow to touch MUI Goku. Beerus Vs Whis… 8 Comments. MUI Goku VS Beerus. Big problem here. The Holy Dream. I'd say Whis though. Gogeta was pushed to Blue by Broly, someone who according to Goku, who has not seen Beerus's full power, MIGHT be stronger than him. Many Dragon Ball fans have this misconception that Goku always wins and that Goku always saves the day. We haven't seen Whis actually exert himself, just training Goku and Vegeta and dodging Broly's attacks with ease. (I have not watched too much Dragon Ball so i might get things wrong) Now in my opinion Hokage Naruto IS NOW HERE NEAR HIS BEST. To clarify, this was Buu with Piccolo, Mystic Gohan (who was far stronger than Gotenks), Goten and Trunks all together added on top of the power that Gotenks was struggling to beat, and Vegito dominates him. At this point it is just speculation, what is fact is that Broly was said to be stronger than Jiren in the novels. If we look at Gotenks vs Buu and Vegito vs Buu, it seems like that Vegito was at a slightly higher level however it was a fusion of the strongest fighters around(save Gohan) and they were only slightly stronger than two kids with limited fighting experience. Clearly, Whis is the strongest fighter Goku has ever fought. You guys think it would be like Nail vs … As for MUI Gogeta that's hard to say. I reckon 10-12th dimensions from the VS Battles Wiki page, but the page also says that Xeno Goku is 4th Dimensional (I believe) so I'm not sure if it's completely believable lol. I honestly dont think goku and vegeta will ever get to that level. Gogeta is not Vegito, and there is some debate over which is stronger. 0:50. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE beerus, whis, and goku ssgod vs omega shenron, goku ssj4, and vegeta ssj4. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse - SSJG Goku vs Beerus vs Whis, SSJ4 Goku,vs Super 17 Gameplay. Alright. So, if Goku could beat Jiren with an overall power level of 6, think what Beerus can do with him with a 10. Plus we see how Zamasu was able to keep up with Vegito for the most part or at the very least there was not a massive power gap. Whis makes another statement in the anime saying that Mastering Ultra Instinct would result in Goku/ Vegeta surpassing Beerus. Followers. Cookies help us deliver our Services. So far, only Goku has been shown to use it. Posted by 8 days ago. 0:50. The thing is we never see Whis putting forth any sort of effort. The difference between MUI (I’m assuming Vegito gets Goku’s Limit breaker transformation along with UI) and base is absolutely ridiculous. This form allows Goku to match full power Jiren thanks to it exploiting openings in his guard - causing Jiren to refer to it as not being true strength like his own. DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE beerus, whis, and goku ssgod vs omega shenron, goku ssj4, and vegeta ssj4. Whis on the other hand has no time limit and I'm willing to bet a hefty amount of stamina. ... Dragon Ball Xenoverse SSJG Goku vs Beerus vs Whis, SSJ4 Goku,vs Super 17 Gameplay. It would be a huge stretch to say he would even be near the grand priest in power. The nature of MUI is that the user can masterfully dodge and attack fully independently of their own thoughts. Dragon Ball Xenoverse: God Goku, SS4 Goku, Super 17, Beerus, Whis Gameplay. He also has various reality warping abilities and UI of his own. Goku was also exhausted when he fought Kefla. This more or less establishes the fact that MUI Goku would be stronger than Beerus. Goku coulda spanked Broly with it if Broly hadn't reversed the god-bind on him. MUI Vegetto would godstomp. So MUI Goku was better than Jiren, but not massively so. Wiki Points. 0:50. And if your gonna say "Oh but Whis incapacitated Beerus with a single karate chop!" Whis also has time space hax and sealing powers. On the other hand, Vegito fought and almost completely stomped the most powerful version of Buu ever seen in the franchise. So as ridiculous as MUI Gogeta would be even if whis has to try, he’s probably got some major strength that we never would normally see him use. Whis is undoutebly faster than MUI Goku SSG BOG Goku scales immensely less than 100QD unless you say that between BOG and … That's a strange theory, given how Goku had much more confidence in SSG to challenge Beerus than he did in Potara, and that would mean SSJ Vegito back in the Buu Saga dwarfed SSG Goku from BoG. Hakai Tweens 30% . SSJB Gogeta vs MUI Goku Thread ... Or if they were suddenly Whis level, HE would have said so. Beerus Vs Whis… If it took Goku is his THIRD Ultra Instinct Omen to be considered to be possibly stronger than Beerus, then there is absolutely no way that the GoDs are only equal to Goku in SSB Kaioken x20. Follow 1290. Broly is the strongest "enemy" Goku has ever fought, according to one statement. Dragon Ball Xenoverse SSJG Goku vs Beerus vs Whis, SSJ4 Goku,vs Super 17 Gameplay. Forum Posts. Assuming this is a Vegito made up of a MUI Goku AND a MUI Vegeta. Kuzehiko, Mar 25, 2018 #19. The Holy Dream. If Johnny manages to hit Goky with the infinite rotation nail. Ultimately SSB Gogeta is comparable to MUI Goku using Whis statement. Plus MUI … db dbgt dbs dbz gohan goku kaioken kakarot kakarotto songohan songoku ssj ssj2 ssj3 ssj4 vegeta whis gokukaioken ssgss ssjb beerus gokuvsbeerus ssjgssj ssjblue dbsfanart ultrainstinct ssjbkaioken dbsmovie ssjbe ssjbevolution. So Broly would probably win against MUI Goku… Last edited: Feb 2, 2018. Beerus Vs ... MUI GOKU VS GOD OF DESTRUCTION BEERUS. @PFM18 MUI Goku VS Beerus. MUI could beat Jiren. In Dragon Ball Super, it is shown that Vegeta spends a few months training with Beerus Vs Whis. VIEW OLDER REPLIES. I have no problem believing MUI Gogeta being on whis level and stuff. Poll Current MUI Goku Vs Beerus and Champa (34 votes) Goku 68% . At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly) (edited by administrators) Gogeta Autonomous Ultra Instinct (ability) Autonomous Ultra Instinct Dragon Ball Super: Broly. Are you insane? He will be able to react like Whis but hes still much slower/weaker. He was fooling with Broly in the new movie, and while Broly wasn't at his utmost best quite yet by then, it's pretty apparent Whis wasn't in any danger and was merely humoring the poor sap. so i really don't see any GoDs being any more than KKX20 tier. i think mui goku is already beyond beerus and considering vegito blue to be also beyond beerus and if we add mui to it i think it will definetly be a good match for whis as vegito mui can one shot beerus both in skills and in terms of raw power, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. SSJB Gogeta vs MUI Goku Thread ... Or if they were suddenly Whis level, HE would have said so. We have seen when there is a massive power discrepancy between fighters, like Goku vs Recoome or SSj2 Gohan vs Cell. So who wins in a hypotetical 1v1 fight? So MUI Goku was better than Jiren, but not massively so. You thought that what Jiren did to SSB Kaioken x20 Goku is what he could do to Beerus? Once can also argue her fusion is an outlier when compared to the likes of Fused Zamasu and Kibito Kai. Unless you know, it actually happens and UI fusion is somehow grand priest level. Beerus Vs Whis. I was also wondering the what dimensional Tier Cosmic Armor Superman is. Cookies help us deliver our Services. All this going off the presumption that Gogeta can use MUI anyway. Press J to jump to the feed. We honestly just dont have enough info to even begin to consider this beyond just guessing, but I'll take what we know and make a guess. I mean TW:OH can easily beat Goku MUI but its not canon After a brief too-fast-to-see-statue-fight, MUI Goku came out on top. Poll Current MUI Goku Vs Beerus and Champa (33 votes) Goku 70% . 3:22. I know this isn't really a rant but I'm curious if he is or not. Whis, Beerus, Vegeta & Goku Eating Ramen - EP 47. MUI could beat Jiren. VS. Who wins? Followers. He can one shot Beerus, which I doubt any mortal can do. Welcome to Dragon Ball folks. RELATED: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Anti-Monitor: Who Would Win? The goal here is to land a clean hit on Whis within five minutes. When there is a massive difference in power the fight is over in a punch or two, not an extended fight. There’s no way Whis could take on a fully mastered Ultra Instinct Vegito. If you can agree with that, I move on to my conclusion. What?! Whis wins. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse - SSJG Goku vs Beerus vs Whis, SSJ4 Goku,vs Super 17 Gameplay. We’re not talking about Whis vs … Now, Golden Frieza was able to withstand Broly for at least an hour and Broly was able to tag Gogeta a few times. Send scans or anything, please do, I really want to see how he can. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. The Holy Dream. Whis is unquantifiably-ish above MUI Goku and that's it. Goku cant kill Giorno, Giorno cant kill Goku. When there is a massive difference in power the fight is over in a punch or two, not an extended fight. I would love to see this evidence. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Whis only dodged SSJ Broly, while LSSJ Broly was the one who fought Gogeta. While this may very well be true for the original Dragon Ball Z movies (most of them anyway,) it’s far from the case when it comes to the original manga and modern Dragon Ball.Goku wins a lot, but he doesn’t win all the time. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Beerus Vs Whis. 2 years ago. ... and in terms of hand to hand was trained by whis for far longer than goku was. So MUI Goku was better than Jiren, but not massively so. If they can both use MUI, it's likely just stalemate until Gogeta defuses or explodes due to the toll the heat will be taking on his body. Jiren = MUI Goku > SSJB Vegeto > UI Goku UI Goku's reflexes allow him to hang against people outside of his weight class though . There's a pretty massive difference between those two things. Whis didn't even incluse himself in the top five. Seriously? After a brief too-fast-to-see-statue-fight, MUI Goku came out on top. This is hard to say because how strong they would be is unknown. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! If he gets hit he could just RTZ. It's hard to believe Whis is MUI fusion level when SSJB Goku was fodder to Beerus yet SSJB Gogeta can … 8 3 38. Jiren at his full power is only said to be at the level of the GoDs. Beerus Vs Whis. 656 Views. So that's not really a good metric to go by. Do you think they could contend with him? Millón Vasto. Casual Goku in his completed Ultra Instinct form, Beerus is also activating his completed Ultra Instinct, and lastly Jiren unleashing all of his power vs. Whis who's in the mood for fighting. Whis also says this to Vegeta when he fights Beerus in the manga and loses the fight. O. Omegas03 Well-Known Member. Let's move on for a sec. Noone would win. Oct 21, 2020 #22 I am calling BS on angel tier Goku too, but I still think he likely beats Gogeta. Gogeta has no counter to that. CUI Goku would lose against Beerus. You’re assuming that UI allow people to attain the same level, maybe MUI Goku is on the same level as Whis in this case? Whis is much stronger then Beerus who is probably a high end GoD, so no he wont be anywhere close to Whis imo. Seriously! We're talking the fusion of the two undisputed most powerful fighters in the universe at the time against a fusion of their children. MUI GOKU VS GOD OF DESTRUCTION BEERUS. Dragon Ball Xenoverse: God Goku, SS4 Goku, Super 17, Beerus, Whis Gameplay. Needs to get added. User Lists: 0 #51 D2therJ. Depends whether Whis can power up and was only using a fraction of his full power(and not having KI) when he trained them. MUI Goku wins. Whis power is unknown, while he is stronger then Beerus, it's unknown how much stronger then Beerus he truly is, even SSJB Gogeta crushed Broly, and he was => Beerus. Though I think it is safe to presume that Whis himself can perform Ultra Instinct based on his position as an Angel and the fact that hes the guy who tells us everything that we learn about the technique. 0. So who wins in a hypotetical 1v1 fight? MUI Goku will be as strong as Jiren, or GoD+ level (somewhere ranging from low end to high end GoD strength). Wouldn't matter if it was a MUI Vegeta. ... MUI Goku and FP Jiren are GoD tiers and GoD tiers can wipe out an entire universe so I am inclined to believe MUI Goku and FP Jiren defeat him by wiping out the whole universe Kuzehiko, Mar 25, 2018. MUI defeated Jiren, who is stronger than someone stronger than Beerus, according to Whis, who saw Beerus at his fullest. I simply cant envisage a way that Gogeta could defeat Whis within the allotted 30 minutes whilst generating so much heat that even a fused body probably wont be able to withstand. Neither of them have his dodging ability and every time MUI is used it gets better, in one minute he went from being unable to win against Jiren to manhandling a Jiren that had surpassed his limits. Zeno points you get erased on a 4D scale, easy as that. Angel Merus vs MUI Goku, Jiren, Vegito, Gogeta, Cumber, Broly many more Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. After a brief too-fast-to-see-statue-fight, MUI Goku came out on top. Whis is unquantifiably-ish above MUI Goku and that's it. A hypothetical ToP base Vegito alone would probably be stronger than ssg Goku (considering how that’s what happened to Kefla). And I'm not a Beerus wanker either, I wholeheartedly believe that Limit Breaker Jiren would beat Beerus. ... and in terms of hand to hand was trained by whis for far longer than goku was. Whis is unquantifiably-ish above MUI Goku and that's it. If he did then this version of Goku and Vegeta might even win against said weakened Whis. 0:50. So we have a situation where we have two MUI users, but one has a 30 minute time limit on his existence and is a mortal generating a fuck ton of heat, and the other is an Angel who to our knowledge has no real weaknesses. Whis' 498 QD is what Beerus scales from at his full speed and 2.) 0. They arent Angel level until that’s explicitly stated . 2 years ago | 209 views. If beerus is the strongest god, it stands to reason whis is one of the strongest whatever they’re called. Trunks helps summon Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis! You are indeed where you belong. The Holy Dream. The goal here is to land a clean hit on Whis within five minutes. Because Whis has at least tens of millions of years more experience with UI, a variety of reality warping, and Beerus is fodder to him I’m gonna give the win to him. Whis by far. You are indeed where you belong. Seriously! Only one currently whose been able to transform into it is Goku. Zeno 4D erasure when via pointing. So if we put it all together, it seems as though Gogeta with MUI is at best somewhat on par with a casual Whis, with not enough power to pose any real threat to Whis if he got serious. He didn't even land a single hit in the fight. GoD Beerus vs MUI Goku. On a serious note: These guys can't prove you wrong on "whis reviving" he hasn't shown the ability to revive yet nothing points to him being unable to do so. 3:22. The only CANON stand that i can think of that can beat MUI is Tusk Act 4. Oct 21, 2020 #22 I am calling BS on angel tier Goku too, but I still … So it stands to reason that Gogeta would be stronger, even at that point in the story. Prove that Jiren can incapacitate Beerus with a single chop. I see arguments that he is but I wanted to make sure they're not baseless. Wiki Points. Whis KO'd beerus with a light chop to the back of the head while he was rampaging while half asleep. He had to power up against Kefla when she went SSJ2. Whis can simply just dodge and block until Gogeta separates. But this isn't the only statement relevant to power scaling. Morals OFF. Can the trio do it? Whis is unquantifiably-ish above MUI Goku and that's it. Beerus Vs Whis. Whis in the manga stomps beerus with 1 shot, this same beerus that 1 shot Mastered super saiyan blue vegeta. His points were: Goku is faster than time Goku could easily move in RTZ. VS. Close. A hypothetical ToP base Vegito alone would probably be stronger than ssg Goku (considering how that’s what happened to Kefla). It was a quick jab and ended so fast it is safe to say he is much, much more powerful than Beerus. Knowing Dragon Ball I wouldn't be at all surprised if the physical toll of Ultra Instinct would decrease the amount of time the fusion would last for. I think FP MUI Goku or FP Blue Gogeta are to Whis what vanilla SSB Goku was to Jiren, more or less. Even if Whis wins (he should), it's not going to be like you guys are wank-dreaming like. Posted by 8 days ago. Now does this make Beerus the strongest G.o.D? The only thing we might be able to confirm about it is that Gogeta could revert out of it by loosing enough stamina since that occurred when Goku was using it, but that could be debatable since we don’t know if Gogeta has perfected it or not. Im amazed no one used the argument "Whis is stronger than MUI goku so he solos". Follow. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse - SSJG Goku vs Beerus vs Whis, SSJ4 Goku,vs Super 17 Gameplay. 2:16. Clearly, Whis is the strongest fighter Goku has ever fought. There used to be, but now we know they are the same power, according to new sources that came out in 2018 before the DBS: Broly movie. It's hard to believe Whis is MUI fusion level when SSJB Goku was fodder to Beerus yet SSJB Gogeta can … Akira Toriyama, creator of the DBS, himself said that if Goku is a 6, Beerus is a 10 and Whis is a 15. This changed when he hit mastered form, and while he was handling Jiren with relative ease, it wasn't like Jiren was being taken out in one or two hits. And while Whis is trustworthy and I have no doubt that he is more powerful than Beerus, we haven't really seen Beerus exert himself either, so it's really hard to gauge where they'd both fall power-wise going all out. We have Hokage Naruto. It will be a very close and intense battle indeed, but we feel Beerus will win this one. Reviews: 0. ... Dragon Ball Xenoverse SSJG Goku vs Beerus vs Whis, SSJ4 Goku,vs Super 17 Gameplay. Whis power is unknown, while he is stronger then Beerus, it's unknown how much stronger then Beerus he truly is, even SSJB Gogeta crushed Broly, and he was => Beerus. Even if Gogeta could match him in power, Whis still has hax. MUI burns out stamina crazy fast but whis just has it in his natural state. 0. MUI Goku's best attributes were of course auto attack and auto dodge and as shown by SFP Jiren when a person is fast enough and strong enough those two get negated, it was only with a rage boost that Goku gained an actual advantage. Gogeta would need to land at least one huge attack to have a shot here I think, and while it could happen we just dont know enough about Whis' durability to know what it would take to beat him. 0. Ultra Instinct Goku VS Jiren debuted in Dragon Ball Super Episode 110, but what if Super Vegito faced Whis? Beerus won that battle. If they're bloodlusted I'm giving it to Whis 10/10 because of his time rewind. It was stated that he was able to tap into the form for defense but not for offense. Oh wait, he can't. Goku coulda spanked Broly with it if Broly hadn't reversed the god-bind on him. 88 Favourites. Whis effortlessly stomps. We have seen when there is a massive power discrepancy between fighters, like Goku vs Recoome or SSj2 Gohan vs Cell. It wouldn’t be hard; it would be impossible. We have seen when there is a massive power discrepancy between fighters, like Goku vs Recoome or SSj2 Gohan vs Cell. Goku in his completed Ultra Instinct form, Beerus is also activating his completed Ultra Instinct, and lastly Jiren unleashing all of his power vs. Whis who's in the mood for fighting. fusion last unlimited amount of time takes place in top arena. Gogeta is not Vegito, and there is some debate over which is stronger. Goku has always been able to pull ahead at every turn, achieving a new level of power just as Vegeta catches up. Whis’s best feat is one shotting Beerus iirc. Goku coulda spanked Broly with it if Broly hadn't reversed the god-bind on him. In the last chapter where Goku fought Moro is hinted that Beerus can clap Moro's cheecks very easy while Goku struggled. Beerus Vs Whis. Forum Posts. His battle skills are so sharp he doesn't need to transform into MUI, he's just in a constant state of readiness. I dont think hed use it in a normal fight but when pulling out all the stops he could and it breaks everything. I am under the impression that Whis would win given what we have to work with. You are really, really, REALLY wanking Goku. The Holy Dream. Also metamaran fusion only lasts 30 minutes, which is something that needs to be accounted for in a fight. I think then it is safe to say that Gogeta is stronger than GF and Broly, but not massively so. In the manga, after Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta's quick defeat at Beerus' hand, Whis notes that achieving this state would allow Vegeta to take on any foe, including Beerus. By MohaSetif Watch. DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE beerus, whis, and goku ssgod vs omega shenron, goku ssj4, and vegeta ... MUI GOKU VS GOD OF DESTRUCTION BEERUS. I also wouldn't say that Broly "almost contended" with him. Whis não analisou Jiren com base NAQUELE poder e sim no que ele vira: - Jiren supera com folga o Goku Full Power + Genki Dama + SSJB + Kaioken x20 - Logo, ele ligou aquele fato com os rumores do suposto mortal que supera os Deuses Nunca se tratou de Jiren suprimido vs Deuses, o próprio Toppo Hakaishin já estava acima daquele Jiren em poder mostrado. 1:43. I am under the impression that Gogeta is stronger, but by how much is not clear. 8 3 38. In the last chapter where Goku fought Moro is hinted that Beerus can clap Moro's cheecks very easy while Goku struggled. You can't beat what you can't touch. Beerus Vs ... MUI GOKU VS GOD OF DESTRUCTION BEERUS. and Gogeta is too slow to touch MUI Goku. MUI Goku will Godstomp Beerus and Whis will still Godstomp MUI and Jiren fusion. 1:43. 3:22. O. Omegas03 Well-Known Member. MUI Goku and Jiren LB vs Whis 67 results; 1; 2; D2therJ. Whis also seem to be amused at Broly, never threatened by him. Goget has to be weaker than Jiren, or Goku and Vegeta would have tried it on him. and Gogeta is too slow to touch MUI Goku. Gogeta is obscenely powerful yes, but MUI is hugely physically demanding and generates an enormous amount of heat, or at least did when Goku used it. Broly is the strongest "enemy" Goku has ever fought, according to one statement. Whis, Beerus, Vegeta & Goku Eating Ramen - EP 47. MUI Goku VS Beerus. It's hard to believe Whis is MUI fusion level when SSJB Goku was fodder to Beerus yet SSJB Gogeta can slap the dog s*** outta someone above him. 1 Superstars ... Goku needed to "close the gap [Tien/Whis]" in power to compete with Jiren for his UI to be effective. Press J to jump to the feed. 0. a suppressed Jiren can also do that and keep in mind that Champa was genuinely afraid of Kaioken X10 Super Saiyan Blue Goku so i … Nope, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta then a MUI gogeta wouldn’t be good enough either, in my opinion he’d only be using 10% or less of his power so maybe a oozaru MUI gogeta could be a solid foe, if you compare how easily whis was dodging broly when he was almost able to contend with ssb gogeta. ... MUI GOKU VS GOD OF DESTRUCTION BEERUS. 483. We just have his word that hes more powerful than Beerus. I guess tryhard SSG Goku is relative to Base Vegeta pre Whis training. VS Mui Goku. Goku went to get Zeno, not Whis. I think that two MUI users in combat would simply fail to land good blows on each other due to them both perfectly dodging and blocking constantly. You can't beat what you can't touch. Nope. Let's move on for a sec. MUI Goku VS Beerus. Me and my friend were talking about who would win in a 1v1 between GER vs MUI My points were: GER's stat literally can't be measured. 2 years ago | 209 views. Goku in SSB Kaioken x20 is as strong as the Gods of Destruction? I'm giving this to Whis 9/10. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. a suppressed Jiren can also do that and keep in mind that Champa was genuinely afraid of Kaioken X10 Super Saiyan Blue Goku so i really don't see any GoDs being any more than KKX20 tier. Seriously! By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Beerus Vs Whis. And if your gonna say "Oh but Whis incapacitated Beerus with a single karate chop!" If Whis is at full power all the time and is just so good at holding back then they do not stand any chance. He can just rewind time every time Gogeta has an advantage and take that advantage away. Let's move on for a sec. Even if it was stated that Beerus could quite literally never perfect MUI, that's not the same as saying that Goku could beat him in a fight. So the battle would be FB Jiren and MUI Goku vs SSB Gogeta who can hypothetically use kaioken. Gogeta needs to go in, hit really really hard, and finish off whoever's hes facing in 30 minutes. Before Goku hit the master form, he was able to avoid all of Jiren's attacks but was unable to do any real damage. Additionally, "enemy" is ambiguous as to what that category includes. Whis is able to one shot Beerus. When there is a massive difference in power the fight is over in a punch or two, not an extended fight. Since achieving Super Saiyan Blue, Vegeta has gained a level of power that finally truly rivals that of Goku. 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