- #206592436 added by baloothebear at hateful better Termite 3. How do you get that out of what he said? Goku was stronger than Fat Buu fresh out of ball, but he wasn t at the same ease with Kid Buu. When Kid Buu -- the final/original form of Majin Buu -- emerges from Super Buu's forced transformation, Vegeta says to Goku, "It's hard to tell if he's stronger now or weaker," suggesting Kid Buu… It's a fact. Really controversial fight such as Goku vs Gohan, since Gohan was stronger than Super Bu and Goku was in tie with kid buu Goku stated that him and Vegeta can't beat Super Buu once they will be out of his body. Majin Buu’s strongest form is Buuhan, as he has Gotenks’ techniques, the intellect of Piccolo, and the raw power of Ultimate Gohan. According to official statements SSJ3 Goku = Buuhan Kid Buu matched and outlasted SSJ3 Goku Who you got? This Kai did not weaken him. Like him fighting a Super Saiyan 3 is no different than Goku vs Fat Buu, and him beating the crap out of Vegeta is no different than Fat Buu who just one shotted him. Kid Buu was the last version of the character that the Z-Warriors had to face, but he had other forms that the heroes had to fight as well, beginning with the most well-known incarnation of the character, who is simply called Majin Buu. Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu even when he has no one absorbed. "The Dragon Ball Super anime is lowering the IQ of the characters so the DB fan base can relate to them better." And I've never seen an argument using the manga only where someone can prove Kid Buu is stronger. Menu. Remember when he tore a hole(in a much weaker form) in the hyberbolic time chamber and he also caused otherworld to shake from his power? 3. Obviously, everyone agrees that Super Vegito is the strongest in the Dragon Ball Z universe right? So Kid Buu is more dangerous. Never mind the fact that Vegeta and Trunks had to fight a stronger version of Cell!". Super Buu goofed around with Goku and Vegeta like they were play toys. Buuhan crushes kid buu. Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu, but Kid Buu fights in a mindless rampage, while Buuhan stops to talk about his great power etc. Kid Buu is physically stronger, but he lacks strategy. But Goku bluffed all the time. When Gotenks timed out inside Buu, Goku told Gohan no need to fuse, means he could fight Buu by himself. No, Kid Buu is not the strongest of the Buu's. They aways make goku fight the strongest. Its a matter of fact. Due to the fact that Frieza withheld some of his energy, Kid Buu clearly doesn't know the meaning of restraint. I don't know what else to tell you. No, absolutely not. In fact, Goku presented that option, and Vegeta shot it down not because it wasn't a potential solution, but because he specifically wanted the Earthlings to save themselves. Supreme kai said that other kais make Buu weaker, but he was talking mostly about Fat Buu … A discussion-dedicated Dragon Ball subreddit. Genki is just one of several elements that make up ki as a whole, so the amount of genki that someone has is always going to be lower than the amount of actual ki that they have. 4 Stronger: Power Impact We have already established this. Typically in DB, absorbing someone increases your power, and losing someone you have already absorbed decreases your power. Super Buu would fight, talk, fight, talk. He was revived with everyone else by Porunga. Buuhan. The way power scaling works in Dragon Ball, the new main villain is almost always stronger than the previous main villain and there’s a some kind of feat or line of dialogue to show that. Kid Buu is stronger but Super Buu is a better fighter as he is able to think more clearly. Kid Buu even easily defeated Goku, and it took Dende using her wish to restore Goku to full power to turn Super Saiyan and obliterate Kid Buu with the Spirit Bomb. Well, I guess I could answer both. So the Genki Dama not being enough doesn't mean that the likes of Gohan wouldn't be enough. It feels weird that Kid Buu/Pure Boo would work differently. In your opinion, who is stronger between Radditz and Nappa? Oh boy, this brought back memories of Youtube 2013 that I wish stayed repressed. Buuhan = 2.5 (it was brought up in this thread than Buuhan is probably under 3x stronger than Super Buu, because every absorption just adds to Super Buu's power instead of it being a multiplier) SSJ 3 Gotenks = 1.1; Base Gotenks = 0.00275 (This would have to be base Gotenks' power since SSJ 3 Gotenks didn't outright stomp Super Buu. It is stated that Kid Buu is the strongest since it is Majin Buu's true form. 100% Frieza was bulky, Cell was hardly small and Buff Buu is bigger and stronger than kid Buu but to answer your question no kid Buu is not stronger than super Buu. Rewatch dbz bro. Plus, it Is a weak proof but in every game or card game kid buu is stronger than super buu, In my opinion toriyama just retcon those power levels, like he retcon almost everything (cell's core, piccolo's regeneration, hyperbolic time chamber). In the anime version, Pure Boo is simultaneously weaker and stronger than Evil Boo, because the anime's writers tried to give the final battle some extra hype by saying that he was the strongest form so far, but while still leaving in all that prior dialogue from the manga that makes that impossible. the genkidama wasn't enough to kill Kid Buu when it has the power of the only z warriors. The simple answer is that Goku was extremely against fighting against Super Buu, but believed Kid Buu was a realistic possibility with Super Saiyan 3 the whole way through. Super Buu was warming up with Gotenks for Guhan. (For example, Cell initially lost power after spitting up Android 18). No, Kaioushin only stated that the fat Dai Kaioushin was the one that weakened Buu, as it gave him a heart. The South Kaioushin, the strong, muscular one, did not weaken Buu at all, and in fact increased his strength considerably. I've always thought the order of Buu's forms from strongest to weakest went like this: 1) Majuub 2) BuuHan 3) Buutenks 4) Kid Buu 5) Piccolo Buu 6) Super Buu 1. Then Buuhan has got Piccolo, Gohan, Goten and Trunks inside him to power himself up more. Isn't Buuhan the strongest form of Buu? Goku plainly stated that he was too strong for himself or Vegeta to fight and would kill them easily. Vegeta outright states why he wanted to use the Genki Dama to defeat Buu, instead of bringing Gohan or Gotenks up. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. =) I Think Kid Buu is Weaker, even though he acts all wild and crazy. Goku explicitly stated Buu got weaker going from Super to Kid and had no issue fighting him solo with no fusion, unlike Super Buu who he refused to fight without it. Endless stamina, no talking just destroing and killing. Super Buu is irrefutably stronger than Kid Buu. Regardless of his thoughts he never wrote Kid Buu as the strongest. In the original, coherent manga version of the story, Evil/Super Boo is definitively the stronger one. A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta. Super Buu is stronger. Buuhan is far more intelligent while being just a touch weaker. Now, at this point there is no indication that Kid Buu is weaker than SSK. Really controversial fight such as Goku vs Gohan, since Gohan was stronger than Super Bu and Goku was in tie with kid buu. Gotenks and Gohan Buu were also unambiguously the strongest Buus period, so the "strongest final form is small shtick" clearly isnt true here. A common misconception regarding Dragon Ball Z’s final villain is that Kid Buu was Buu’s strongest form, but that’s actually not the case. but kid buu wasn't the last villian. Kid Buu is second from the weakest, being only stronger than Mr. Buu. Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu. The other part is that these feats Kid Buu has is realistically like Fat Buu level. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. DBZ Broly gets demolished by Buu due to Buu’s hacks and superior power. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Supreme kais aren't part of z fighters, and actually they make weaker buu The chapter of the fight was "battle for the faith of the universe" or something like that. Kid Buu is the weakest of them all (excluding that time they split in two) Ultra Buu is a lil stronger, the fact that he grows muscles made him slower, the raw force when up a lil, but the fighting style decrease, just like that time Vegeta and Trunks used the so called ascended form. Here is evidence of Super Buu being stronger than Kid Buu. For someone who quite literally guilt tripped Vegeta into using the Potara, he was sure okay with not using it against Kid Buu. Due to the vast gap in Frieza's and Kid Buu's powers at the time, we know for a fact that even a small Shocking Ball would overpower Frieza's Destroy The Planet! It doesnt make any sense if gohan or gotenks were stronger. Well, this is confusing, You chose DBZ Broly as your topic but used 2018 Broly in your question. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Supreme kai said that other kais make Buu weaker, but he was talking mostly about Fat Buu as weaker than kid Buu. Support Ticket. Kid Buu = Dai Kaioshin God Ki Buuhan = Dai Kaioshin and South Kaioshin God Ki, Gohan, Piccolo, Goten and Trunks So it is logical that Buuhan is stronger. Wasn't Gohan dead during the fight with Kid Buu ? Nappa is stronger. Super Buu had the higher power level, but Kid Buu was ruthless and non-stop. http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/ dragon ball forum, FC:1633-4315-8950| Official Young Link of the MM3D and SSBU boards. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Of course, Kid Buu is the most dangerous form of Majin Buu. Kid Buu would just attack, blast, attack, blast, laugh like the psycho he is, rinse and repeat. Yeah, so Buuhan is your answer TC. New posts. My belief in terms of pure power, Super Buu (With Gohan absorbed) is the strongest of them all. It doesn't get much simpler than that. kid buu was stronger than the super buu and goku ssj3 was stronger than mystic gohan. Gohan was canonically the strongest individual character in DB prior to the advent of Super. That's like watching Imperfect Cell beat Piccolo and Tien and go "Welp, Imperfect Cell is stronger than Semi-Perfect Cell! The latter is a general statement and he does not explicitly mention Buu. He took Gotenks WAY more seriously than either of them. I'm sure when Buu absorbed Gotenks he probably was the strongest Majin at that point, then came along his absorption of Gohan. The only thing that makes me unsure - I don't understand why Pure Boo/Kid Buu would have increased in power after losing the fat one. He was the one goku killed. It just means that there wasn't any form of Buu to exist that was stronger than Gotenks Buu. Wasn't Gohan dead during the fight with Kid Buu ? There's also Toriyama stating that Kid Buu was the most powerful character around at that point during DBZ (Referring to post Fusion Buu Saga here, not using this to say Kid Buu>>Buuhan). omega shenron was the last villian of dbz gt. Gohan wasn't brought to the kai's Planet to fight Kid Buu, maybe 'cause he was weaker? Jiren. Goku stated that him and Vegeta can't beat Super Buu once they will be out of his body. The only reason he was so dangerous was because he was untamed and ravenous. 2. And Goku vs Gohan isn't controversial either. Goku went toe-to-toe with Kid Boo, whereas he was terrified of facing Boohan without fusion. The Androids should've been no stronger than, at best, initial Freeza. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Kid Buu would win because Goku saying Rildo first form is stronger/as strong as Kid Buu makes no sense. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. He then proceeded to tango one-on-one with Pure/Kid Boo shortly thereafter. That also means base Kid Goku is about as strong as ssj3 Z Goku, which is ridiculous. Genki Dama doesn't use all the ki (only the genki), also, they were all tired. Kid Buu was always toying with everyone till he saw the spirit bomb. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/3/36/160822035032494439.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/517?cb=20180307011414. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. The Genki Dama takes a portion of the individual's ki, known as their genki (hence the name). Even with kid buu he planned to going all out at the start, just only when vegeta said "let's see what this SSJ3 is capable for". Vegito>>>Buuhan>>>Gohan>Gotenks>=Super Buu>>>Goku>=Kid Buu>Vegeta, Kid Buu is fodder for anyone above ssj3 Goku. The confusion is driven in part by some of the heroes' quotes throughout the show. In an interview, Toriyama noted that he made Frieza and Majin Buu in their final transformations to be the strongest to go against people's expectations: The former is contradicted by events from the manga itself indicating Super Buu as the strongest and was not authorized by Toriyama. If going by the anime of Dragon Ball Z, who is definitively stronger between SSJ3 Goku, Kid Buu, SSJ3 Gotenks, Super Buu, Ultimate Gohan, Buutenks, Buuhan, Base Vegito, and Super Vegito. When Buu absorbed Gotenks stated that it was born the stronger Majin ever... That just means that Buu with Gotenks absorbed was stronger than all the Majin that came before. Media New media New comments. Doesn't mean Evil/Super Buu wasn't also stronger than all the Majin that came before. Boohan is obviously stronger than Kid Boo. Kid buu, who is much weaker was considered universal if not multi-galaxy level. 1. New posts New media New articles New media comments New article comments New profile posts New threadmarks Latest activity. Oh wait, your opinion doesn't matter. It took Vegito to even challenge Buuhan. That doesn't say at all how any of the other Buus compare to one another strength wise, it just means that none of them were as strong as Gotenks Buu. after dragon ball z they continued in dragon ball z gt and omega shenron was the stronges villian in dbz and the strongest villian in whole animation world and off course goku is the strongest hero in animation world Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What's new. Hell, ssj3 Goku would've beat him if he had enough time to charge up. -Acharyap28, Fat Buu > Buutenks = Buuhan >> Super Buu <> Kid Buu = Evil Buu <= Yamcha, I thought the real argument was Super Buu vs Kid Buu, http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 | https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg. Forums. They are even or Kid Buu is stronger. Especially in comparison to Buutenks and Buuhan. What makes Kid Buu dangerous is his generally being psychotic and unreasonable. re: Kid Buu vs Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed) + Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed) quote Old Man Zangetsu I mean literally both Buuhan and Kid buu are stated on various medias to be the strongest. Yes, he died when Kid Buu blew up the Earth. Its a huge fan misunderstanding, but its an open and shut case. Now this cause him to change and creates Ultra Buu. An example of solar system level is perfect cell, which buuhan destroys pretty easily, also buuhan has the absorbing power. While Buff Buu and Kid Buu are genrally the same, I believe that Kid Buu is more of a threat because even though Buff Buu was stronger than Super Buu. Addons. =) WaffleGuy26 12:09, April 17, 2014 (UTC) Buu's Forms from Strongest to Weakest. I Would Say...Super Buu. His insanity and unpredictability make him the most dangerous Buu, not the strongest. Kid Boo is stated by official guides as being the strongest Boo. I go around the internet looking for answers but many answers seem contradictory. kid buu is stronger than buuhan this is the proof and the truth so deal with it. Precisely, even Evil Buu is supposedly stronger and he's less than 1/3 the power of Super Buu. This isnt a matter of opinion. He felt that Earth's people needed to be involved in their own protection for once, rather than always relying on the Z Senshi. There is no way he is stronger than a Buu that has the combined strength and powers of Goten, Trunks, Piccolo and Gohan. Kid buu is weaker than even first form super buu. Now, it's not as obvious with Super Buu and Kid Buu, but it doesn't come down to opinion. Basically Kid Buu has done absolutely zero to be considered to be on or above Super Buu except for being the final villain to show up and vague statements that were never even attributed to him in the first place. Anime Kid Buu vs Buuhan - Nov 24, 15; Is Kid Buu really the strongest in the anime? 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