It was issued to line infantry and has three-groove rifling with one turn in 78 inches (200 cm). There seem to be two types in the picture a pointed nose and a flat nose which type made the tight group? In trials the Snider proved to be as accurate as the P53 Enfield if not more, as well as allowing the soldier to fire significantly more rounds a minute. n. 1. There were also "Trade Pattern" Snider–Enfields, being Snider–Enfields made for private purchase by various English gun-makers. The American Jacob Snider invented this firearm action, and the Snider–Enfield was one of the most widely used of the Snider varieties. The Artillery Carbine has a 21.25 inches (54.0 cm) barrel with a full stock and two barrel bands, and the same rifling as the Short Rifle and Cavalry Carbine. The Mark III rifles were newly made. Frank Richards, who served on the Northwest Frontier between 1902 and 1908, records in Old Soldier Sahib that the British army still used Sniders during that period. With a big blue mark in his forehead a good .577 (snider) model 'mkiii snider 3-band volunteer' This is a very good Example of a 3 band Snider built by James Kerr a very well-known and respected gunmaker of 54 King William St EC London. OK so here is another of my whacky projects. The Snider was notably powerful. It ha a Snyder breechblock with BRACE or the E may be a small o with a line under it. Much like the Americans, the British settled on a conversion system that retained many of the features of existing muzzle loading rifles and muskets. Volunteer and militia forces continued to use it until the late 1880s. The Snider Enfield was the British army's grudging admission that breech loading rifles were the way of the future, amidst similar conclusions reached by the US and continental Europe. The Snider-Enfield Infantry rifle is 54 1/4 inches, longer than most rifles of the time. Black powder or modern black powder substitutes are used. New rifles started as P/53s but received a new breech block/receiver assembly. Accurate Molds is a great source for Snider or Martini molds. Cream of Wheat (COW) or as we call it in Oz, semolina. Somebody laughed and fled, The rear cavity followed Delvigne's practice for muzzle loaded conical bullets. Shooting tests proved the Snider Rifle system to be the fastest and most reliable. If so were is this information; here in the states Pat Wolf wrote a book telling us how to load for our 1873 trapdoors;he aslo developed; dies; and molds that work; does the snider have any such article; book; or some place to go to. Snider-Enfield Forum > Snider accuracy. The British Army adopted it in 1866 as a conversion system for its ubiquitous Pattern 1853 Enfield muzzle-loading rifles, and used it until 1874 when the Martini–Henry rifle began to supersede it. The carbine load is a different , lighter bullet so I load up 8 at 75,70,65gr. The .577 caliber Enfield … ! Picked up their Subaltern dead, Moderators:The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres. Same bullet as the others? Snider Cases, These are made from reformed Magtec 24 Gauge shotgun shells, I shoot these myself without any problems. British Snider 1860 .577 by Enfield 2 band sargeants: British Snider - 1860 2 band - obsolete calibre: Heres a rare British 2 band (slightly shorter, often referred to as the Sargeants Carbine) with great woodwork and some pitting to the metalwork as can be seen, a really nice British example with no Nepalise markings. $7.25 Snider-Enfield Rifle Mk I . Egyptian military issue with “FARSI" markings. This gun is tight and in good working order. This mechanism had existed since 1853, and by 1860 Enfield had designed the Snider Enfield. ...........Very good! Another question I have is the primer; the Snider case I was sent takes a largePistol Primer and the Magtech's the same; I assume this works fine; yet in 45/70's one uses large rifle Primers and for long distant shooting Large Rifle magnum..Thanks for your consideration an hope my questions are not to stupid'. It has five-groove rifling with one turn in 48 inches (120 cm). I have heard that in order to be in maximal accuracy from a Snider you have to have the action bored out and the barrel shank threaded almost up to the block.Since you are going to put a new barrel on it I would look into this. Is that a carbine or a long rifle you are shooting?and what projectiles are you using? The Mark I o… Fifty years of it: the experiences and struggles of a volunteer of 1859. All this talk of balancing bullets and torpedos has got me thinking. Stock is in overall very good plus condition, no cracks, no chips. See more ideas about enfield, rifle, canadian soldiers. A breech-loading rifle formerly used in the British service; - so called from the inventor. And the men of the First Shikaris Chambered in the .577 cartridge with a three grove RH twist bore showing standard shallow Enfield rifling. The Snider conversion adopted by the British was a side hinged breech loader invented by an American, Jacob Snider. Although the long and short Enfield rifle-muskets had barrel lengths of 39 and 33 inches, respectively, this was reduced by 2.5 inches in the Snider conversions due to … I have tried 75gr Ffg with questionable accuracy. Freddo-- Yes you are correct there were two bullet types used. Moderators:The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres. The breech block houses a diagonally downward sloping firing pin struck with a front-action lock mounted hammer. In addition, the FHG at Fort Henry also uses the various variants of this weapon for their reenactments. EVERYONE NEEDS ONE OF THESE!! My friend from Fort Rucker sent me a bag of Coylote 590 flat nose bullets along with some 590 round nose balls; he also sent me one 577 new Snider case plus 24 Magtech Brass Shot shells; the 577's cost 100 dollars for 25 the Magtech's 16 dollars for 25; looks like I will be cutting off Magtech Cases to the proper length; I received my Lee Die set today. My friend recomends the Coylote Mold; however if he is no longer able to supply one where do I go? [4]The Indian units received the Martini–Henry when the British adopted the Lee–Metford. (Perhaps even more usually, the firer then shook the weapon vigorously to dislodge hot cartridges or those fouled by dust or grime.). Second hand Bertram snider cases Buttplate Screw (2 Req'd) Manufacturer: ENFIELD. The Cavalry Carbine is half stocked and has only one barrel band. The Snider–Enfield used a new type of metal-cased cartridge called a Boxer cartridge after its designer. 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The Snider was the subject of substantial imitation, in both approved and questionable forms, including the Nepalese Snider, which was a nearly exact copy, the Dutch Snider, Danish Naval Snider, and the "unauthorised" adaptations of the French Tabatière and Russian Krnka. The stock has a diamond with DC (dominion of Canada) on one side and London Armoury Co. stamp on the other with 1860 in the middle. "The Snider-Enfield even at 600 yards, which was the limit of the really effective range of the rifle for accurate … So back to the drawing board I go. freddo- that is an interesting idea, the mould is not adjustable but a longer base plug would work or I could rig up a jig and use a drill press to take out a bit of the center of the hollow base. [3] The Snider–Enfield served throughout the British Empire, including Cape Colony, India, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, until its gradual phaseout by the Martini–Henry, beginning in 1874. Infantry rifle. Some 20 rounds could be fired in just two minutes, 35 seconds, with its closest rival, the Greene, coming in at three minutes, 18 seconds. The British .577 Snider–Enfield was a breech-loading rifle. In trials, the Snider P/53 conversions proved both more accurate than original P/53s and much faster firing as well. The breechloader was definitely here to stay. Fifty years of it: the experiences and struggles of a volunteer of 1859. W. Blackwood and Sons. The converted rifles received a new breechblock / receiver assembly… The most commonly encountered variants were the Rifled Musket or Long Rifle, the Short Rifle, and the Cavalry and Artillery Carbines. .577 Snider Enfield Rifle BSA Range Shooting and report/accuracy report. From: William Borror. The Snider Rifle 11/20/20. The nose cavity descended from Metford's design for an explosive bullet with … Mar 3, 2018 - Explore Gary K's board "Snider-Enfield" on Pinterest. Enthusiasts still use these rifles today, with the number in circulation boosted by the acquisition by Atlanta Cutlery and International Military Antiques of a vast quantity of antique weapons held in the Royal Nepalese Armory in the Lagan Silekhana Palace for over a century. I could do a few just for a trial, if that works I could get a different base plug. I then grabbed a load from my carbine snider that shoots lights out and tried it. ... .577 snider enfield. So I have another snider that I am working on that has a questionable bore. Tests proved the superiority of the breech loading mechanism (compared to the muzzle loading method of the Pattern 1853 Enfield and earlier muskets). The British Indian Army used the Snider–Enfield until the end of the nineteenth century. Michael thank you for your information; for me the fun of it all is getting an old war horse to shoot; my skills are not all that great but with a lot of help from people like you I have been able to restore Trapdoors; Krags; SMLE; Springfields 03; US Model 1917 Enfield;M1, several Mausers, and my favorite a Pattern 1914 American Enfield. Rudyard Kipling gave a graphic depiction of its effect in his poem, "The Grave of the Hundred Head": A Snider squibbed in the jungle— The British.577 Snider–Enfield was a breech-loading rifle.The American Jacob Snider invented the firearm action, and the Snider–Enfield was one of the most widely used of the Snider varieties.The British Army adopted it in 1866 as a conversion system for its ubiquitous Pattern 1853 Enfield muzzle-loading rifles, and used it until 1871 when the Martini–Henry rifle superseded it. The Snider first saw action with the British/Indian Army at the battle of Magdala (Aroghee) in Ethiopia on 10 April 1868, against the forces of Tewodros II of Ethiopia; during the battle the 4th (King's Own) Regiment of Foot alone fired 10,200 rounds. The Snider bullets were factory made in powered automatic machine swedged dies and not cast. Together with a centerfire cartridge designed by Col. Boxer, the Snider system for converting the Enfield into a breechloader was approved in September 1866. The barrel shows lots of abuse and improper cleaning. W. Blackwood and Sons. In trials, the Snider Pattern 1853 conversions proved both more accurate than original Pattern 1853s and much faster firing; a trained soldier could fire ten aimed rounds per minute with the breech-loader, compared with only three rounds per minute with the muzzle-loading weapon. Four fine rounds for group, and it looks like one as a flier that didn't want to stabilize. The American Jacob Snider invented this firearm action, and the Snider–Enfield was one of the most widely used of the Snider varieties. Ammunition is reloaded into either modern production .577 Snider cases, or reformed 24 gauge brass shotgun shells. Yes I have fired it. I d ohave to admit that the Coyote Minie-hunter does seem to work quite well in my arty carbine - if I do my thing, I can get ragged holes at 50m? Snider-Enfield, which had an effective range of 600 yd." Well it was right on target. The Snider was adopted for service in 1866 (the year of the inventor’s death) and was produced in large numbers from converting Enfield muzzleloaders. Check out what it took to get some shootable .577 Snider rounds. In trials, the Snider Pattern 1853 conversions proved both more accurate than the original Pattern 1853s and much faster firing; a trained soldier could fire ten aimed rounds per minute with the breech-loader, compared with only three rounds per minute with the muzzle-loading weapon. It stayed in service with the Indian Army until the mid-1890s, because between the Indian Rebellion of 1857 and 1905 the British kept the Indian Army one weapon generation behind British units. I also have a .600 mold that I use in a Nepalese Snider. Metal parts have been cleaned and are excellent, Stock refinished, probably at time of issue. "Snider-Enfield .577 Snider (AL4983) Description: "Snider-Enfield .577 Snider caliber rifle. The Hunza Scouts may have been the last to use it in action (in the carbine version), in the Chitral campaign of 1895. It is my plan to restore this Snider into shooting condition and I plan on shooting it; being retired on a fixed income it will take a while to gather all the eqpt I need; I am truly blessed with good health and certainly hope to shoot another decade up ino my eighties the Lord be willing. These are the first rounds this rifle has fired in over 100 years. I finally got the old Snider that has been sitting around here for about 60 years cleaned up and ready to roar once again. I will first shoot my 590 Coylotes first and see the results following the advise you all have furnished;if his bullets shoot well and his moulds are not avaialable which CBE mould should I choose 585-480 or the 590x 430gns; will make a shooting report in a couple of weeks if all goes well. The Snider–Enfield was produced in several variants. If the last shot maybe fouling took it's toll? ^ Macdonald, John Hay Athole (1909). This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. I occasionally hear folks complain about how time consuming reloading can be. I’ve had this a very long time! The Snider conversions were applied to both the long (3-band) and short (2-band) Enfield rifles. The Short Rifle has a 30.5 inches (77 cm) barrel and two barrel bands with iron furniture. Snider-Enfield, which had an effective range of 600 yd." Model: SNIDER MKI, SNIDER MKII, SNIDER MKIII. This variant was issued to sergeants of line infantry and rifle units. Hope this is useful. The Enfield Pattern 1853 rifle-musket (also known as the Pattern 1853 Enfield, P53 Enfield, and Enfield rifle-musket) was a .577 calibre Minié-type muzzle-loading rifled musket, used by the British Empire from 1853 to 1867; after which many were replaced in service by the cartridge-loaded Snider–Enfield rifle. The wood is solid and has many small markings and numbers. The British Indian Army used the Snider–Enfield until the end of the nineteenth century. Worn. PS My friend tell's me the Snider should be able to hit the large NSSA 100 yard target; certainly not like a holt barrel; anyway I can't hold one that well any way;; thanks for help; follow some advise and slugged rifle from chamber;push were hard and stopped when clear; 585 with Coylote flat nosed 590; did same thing with round ball 590 same results 585; will have to go back and read what cow filler is; thanks again. The Long Rifle has a 36.5 inches (93 cm) barrel and three barrel bands. Snider windage. It’s not prestine, it’s a shooter! The conversion they used was an American design, by Jacob Snider. The converted rifles received a new breechblock/receiver assembly, but retained the original iron barrel, furniture, lock, and hammer. Is the CBE a good pick? Victorian-era British arms, accoutrements, and military history. They featured steel barrels which were so marked, flat nosed hammers, and a latch-locking breech block instead of the simple integral block lifting tang. The Committee reported that at ranges of 500 and 800 yards no rifle was as accurate as the Enfield was at 500 yards but that the Snider was easy to use and the stock of the original Enfield rifle was very strong since no wood had to be removed to accommodate the action. Its total length (without bayonet) is 54.25 inches (137.8 cm) in length, longer than most rifles of the time. Should tribesmen try to get into the camp to steal rifles, the buckshot would give the sentries a better chance of hitting the thief, and unlike a .303 round, would be less likely to wound or kill a comrade should the sentry miss. To operate the weapon, the rifleman cocked the hammer, flipped the block out of the receiver to the right by grasping the left mounted breech block lever, and then pulled the block back to extract the spent case. It used a new type of metal cased cartridge called a Boxer cartridge after its designer. It has been built using parts from the London Armoury Company (LAC) and upgraded by James Kerr. I put my snider back together todayl, had to do some minor filing on sear; the lock now works fine; glad to known COW means cream of wheat;I am certain all natural Va organic grits would work also; I have a lee perfect powder measurer that throws COW just fine; I hae 24 cases so I will now be able to give the rifle a try;I usually start at 50 yards with my civil war muskets; and carbines; this usualy works fine then I adjust sights for 100 yards later; my freind send me 590 solid base flat nose Coylotes and 590 round balls; the rilfe did mike at 585; this was taken fom chamber end forward hard part just above chamber--so I would think 585's might shoot I am interested in shooting concial solid base bullets;I don't want to be putting in plugs in civil war mini's; I have tried calling Mr Coylote and have have also written him; I have communicated with Mr Jim Allison of CBE castbulletengineering MenaL Australia he advised have had good sucess with their 585-480 bullet; he advised if I didn't think suitable they can make me a 590"x approx 430gn. A .577 OBSOLETE CALIBRE THREE-BAND SNIDER ENFIELD SERVICE RIFLE, 36.5inch sighted barrel fitted with ramp and ladder rear sights, sprung breech block stay lacking, plain lock, full stock with regulation brass mounts, steel cleaning rod. From 1866 on the rifles were converted in large numbers at Enfield beginning with the initial pattern, the Mark I. Then dropped down to 70,65grs. Overall the rifle is 54.1/4″ long. From 1866 onwards, the Enfield rifles were converted in large numbers at the Royal Small Arms Factory (RSAF) Enfield beginning with the initial pattern, the Mark I. I have an 1861 Enield, market with the crown with VR under it. The Snider-Enfield used the new Snider action, designed by Jacob Snider, which used a side-hinged breechblock action (the breech (the part of the firearm where the cartridge is loaded) is a seperate chamber mounted on a single side hinge). This target was shot at 50 good long paces over the tool box of my pickup. Sentries on night duty in camps and cantonments would carry a Snider and buckshot cartridges. Special offer A box of 25 is £112.00 and includes FREE insured postage. I have found all the information on accuracy very interesting; did not the English Army design a bullet; powder, primer; and case that was accurate in these rifles? These were often intended for sale to members of volunteer military units, or simply to anyone who might wish to purchase a rifle. This rifle is a conversion from the original muzzle-loading 3-bands; not an upgrade of an earlier conversion. Many other designs were proposed (everyone was busy trying to invent a solution) but the Snider design removed the least amount of wood, which could seriously weaken the rifle. The HCRA in Halifax does live fire demonstrations daily in the Halifax Citadel, fire blanks many times a day, while they are also in possession of around 60 of these rifles. Sighting in at 50 yards, then shooting steel targets at 100 yards. Snider-Enfield synonyms, Snider-Enfield pronunciation, Snider-Enfield translation, English dictionary definition of Snider-Enfield. Snider-Enfield, 1870, .577, Carbine, Snider Breach Loader, Enfield Description: Time ta let things go, my time is limited. The Ijeshas used large numbers of Snider–Enfields against Ibadan during the 16-year-long Yoruba Civil War (1877 to 1893). The Snider-Enfield was to prove more accurate than the Pattern 53, and a trained soldier could fire up to 10 aimed rounds per minute with the breech-loader compared to … "The Snider-Enfield even at 600 yards, which was the limit of the really effective range of the rifle for accurate … Description: This ad features the pictured British Enfield 577 Snider Rifle. And the back blown out of his head. A good clean example of the MkII* Snider Enfield 3 Band Rifle. ↑ Macdonald, John Hay Athole (1909). It’s a MKII, numbers match all that I can see. It has a 19.5 inches (50 cm) barrel, with the same rifling as the Short Rifle. The firearm action was invented by the American Jacob Snider, and the Snider-Enfield was one of the most widely used of the Snider varieties. The holes look very clean like semi wadcutter holes Please tell us more about your loads? I will not be winning any metals at any skirmishes but I have fun. The breech block housed a diagonally downward sloping firing pin struck with a front-action lock mounted hammer. Product #: 1552770. Ironically, Snider died in October 1866 and never saw the realization of the British Empire armed with his invention. And a 25 over B. There was no ejector, so the firer lifted the case out or, more usually, turned the rifle upside-down to allow the case to drop out. 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