It’s similar to referring to a manual transmission as a “standard” transmission. Move that out to 10 laps on a track and say goodbye to every car at the price point including a 5.0 GT mustang before you go there. Even the WRX has moved on you get quite a bit more power and performance than you did in 2002 and the car is cheaper than ever if you adjust for inflation. But the STI also isn’t $40k, its $35k. We analyze hundreds of thousands of used cars daily. The EPA rates the Evo MR at 17 MPG in city driving, and 22 on the highway. Though I suspect that at the ragged edge this car will bite you HARD. I said before there was nothing wrong with driving an automatic. Besides, they won’t sell many at $38k a pop. It’s happy to relax and go with the (traffic) flow. Nope. I think it is fair to say the rally twins are merely great cars now ;-), Now that the wife has an Outback the cargo needs are satisfied and I could have that Evo, but of course we bought a house and have first child on the way so I drive an old Lexus for now…. Which kind of transmission is your DSG? A clutch used to be the difference between an automatic and manual transmission, but that’s not the case anymore. The dealer didn’t have any STIs at the time. That is why they still sell. Yeah, that trunk is ridiculous. The rough ride and noise have clearer payoffs, they’re an integral part of a thoroughly involving driving experience, and so seem more legitimate. Nope, I can leave it drive or sport mode and ride along just like an AUTOMATIC tranmission. Japanese used cars online market. The CVT automatic adds about $900. It’s the immediacy. Let them snicker. But if you want to lump them in as a general description, fine, but it still isn’t the industry standard term. Yeap. The inflation-adjusted sticker of an X GSR in 2010 was about the same as an VIII was back in 2003. Agreed on the technicality that Torque Converter, DSG, CVT are all broadly “Automatics”. While the Lancer’s sub-$16,000 starting price may appear attractive at first glance, value-driven buyers may favor the equally priced Hyundai Elantra and Kia Rio for their additional standard features and superior fuel economy. Do you clamor for that too? For me, I drove the TC-SST and DSG. MPG. And before you say Sti hatchback the back seat in the Evo X is larger sooooo a non issue in my book. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Nissan fanboy here to ‘hate’ on the Evo, I’m glad cars like this exist, too. Much like the way the seemingly underpowered MX-5 Miata keeps winning comparisons against much more powerful cars, the Evo just gets it all right. It is easily a match for the quality and build of the current, 2008-vintage Corolla and better than the current, 2008-vintage Sentra. The 1M has more of a dual personality than the evo has I think. When you drive a sports car or ride a sports bike- people are going to look at you. And this is not even considering the cost aspects of automatic transmissions, which I consider to be a nice bonus. $40,000 is a lot of money for this class of car. Find 10 used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution as low as $25,995 on Carsforsale.com®. Shifts are smoother, faster, and allow you to concentrate on your line and your environment. Economy isn’t one of the SST’s modes. The SE and GT trims, however, get a more robust 168-horsepower 2.4-liter engine, which shows noticeable improvements over the outdated 2.0-liter in the areas of vibration and low-end torque. Mitsubishi provided the Evo MR with insurance and a quickly depleted tank of gas. Can I put it in “D” and not do anything else? And where Evos truly shine is speed in “real world” conditions. It’s not just the quickness. We don’t have chokes or crank start our cars anymore, and most of don’t roll up our windows without a button. I’ve never driven a stick shift car without doing it because it’s become a habit. I do always suggest that people buy whatever car they personally like. “Even the actual name of the tranmission: AUTOMATED dual clutch MANUAL transmission, describes exactly what it is.” – this simply isn’t so. The Ralliart trim gains a turbocharged 2.0-liter engine good for 237 horsepower, while the Evolution model whips out 291 horsepower and 300 lb-ft of torque. I don’t understand why this, an older design, is constantly panned because of the interior quality. 1 Pair, white color bulbs. You couldn’t tell the WRX or STi apart from regular econoboxes unless you open them up, and if you actually use them as DD’s and long distance cruisers, that’s a great thing. Keyless Entry and StartThe available FAST-Key system lets you lock, unlock and start the Lancer without ever removing the key fob from your pocket or bag. Got my MR in 08 too! Use our free online car valuation tool to find out exactly how much your car is worth today. I am a middle aged man who owns a 2006 Evo IX in electric blue with the giant wing and am an accountant by trade. Dealer called me the day it came of the boat, still in it’s packaging. ... Then fate places a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR in the driveway. You don’t have to apologize for enjoying your life. Save $3,067 on a 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution near you. You make a request and the computer decides whether and when to grant it. The Evo and STI are more about driving experience than any objective measure. In aggressive driving the Evo has far more finesse and inspires far more confidence. Japanese used cars - TCV. If I could buy it over again, I would have bought a regular manual GTI. Because it wasn’t designed to 2011 levels in 1999, when it was last redesigned. Oh how I wanted those seats, as the basic seats were easily the worst I’ve had in any car. In fact, I love the Evo so much that I bought an Evo IX MR to join the X. I guess if you think the Evo is a match for a track pack Mustang GT I don’t know what to say. Absolutely. 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution ⦠Michael Karesh operates truedelta.com, a provider of car reliability and pricing information. Used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution for Sale - Pre Owned 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution This is it, firm, direct, quick, and communicative. $40K for a craptastic Mitsu? The interior’s stale design and its abundance of hard, cheap plastics are the Achilles’ heel of the Lancer. With manual gearbox you can additionally chose to go from 3rd to 5th, yes, but is this really important, same with clutch, you can let it slip but you probably would prefer not to. Back seat room wasn’t the issue for me. How can the presence of a clutch be the differentiation between something automatically operated and manually operated? I learned to double-clutch (real double-clutching, not just rev-matching) at age 15. By Brandon Turkus. For 2008-2015 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X 2.0L Borla Cat Back S-Type 140285 (Fits: 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer) 5 out of 5 stars (2) 2 product ratings - For 2008-2015 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution ⦠Around town in daily driving they still shine as you slip it into D and let the car do the work as your left knee thanks you. Sort by price, trim, features, engines, and more. Furthermore, the AWD system on the Evo, with it’s active yaw control and crazy rear diff make the car a completely different beast on a technical level. I don’t care if it uses a torque converter, fluid clutch, rubber band, mechanical actuator or trained gerbils, it’s an automatic, flappy paddles or no.”. See pricing for the Used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR Sedan 4D. Look up automatic in the dictionary. Keyless Entry and StartThe available FAST-Key system lets you lock, unlock and start the Lancer without ever removing the key fob from your pocket or bag. … ), Personally, I agree with you 100%. The 1m feels faster than the evo with its explosive acceleration in a straight line, and I’m sure the numbers say that. What’s been interesting for me as a new Z owner, though, as I previously mentioned, is that it actually is a fairly well behaved, refined vehicle. On roads with surfaces that are less-than-perfect and perhaps wet. Mitsubishi LANCER 2012 Pdf User Manuals. I don’t care if it uses a torque converter, fluid clutch, rubber band, mechanical actuator or trained gerbils, it’s an automatic, flappy paddles or no. I had a few sedans with fold down seats which were fine too, but the trunk in the Evo couldn’t get it done. Heck, we live in an age where an Impala you would find at a rental place has 300 HP and weighs about the same as the Evo. Obviously, I’m not Michael Karesh, but the only think I can think of is that you can carry 3 passengers in the Evo (if they’re crazy enough to go along for the ride) rather than 1 in the Z. It’s just funny to me that most of the Z’s faults are spun together here as praise for a ‘visceral’ driving experience in the Evo, yet the typical Z review gets hung up on moaning about interior noise, engine coarseness, and price. 2. 631. I thought I would feel disassociated with the driving experience, but I don’t. I liked the bits about both Steering and Immediacy. If it shifts itself, it’s an automatic. While it is automated, it has dual clutches, and it is a transmission, there is nothing manual about it. They simply work in different ways and thats why the TERM automatic transmission does not accurately describe the auto dual clutch whatchamathingys that started this whole string. An automatic transmission does not have a clutch, thats what makes it an automatic, they use torque converters. Used MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION 2012 for sale on TCV. City MPG: 17. city. Otherwise, what fun would it be? But the livability gains in the X are simply tremendous. It is right up there with bragging about the good time you gave your hand last night. @MattMan I totally agree. Wondering what car reviewers are looking for when they criticize the steering in, well, everything? Research, compare and save listings, or contact sellers directly from 11 2012 Lancer Evolution models in Seattle. Last time around I drove the Evo GSR, which has a five-speed manual transmission. Find 10 used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution as low as $25,995 on Carsforsale.com®. I have driven a 08 Evo X MR (first year) since new. For 2012, Mitsubishi introduces a new SE trim with standard all-wheel drive (AWD), heated seats and outside mirrors, a continuously variable automatic transmission, and the GT model’s more powerful 2.4-liter engine. You don’t control anything. But the wing is functional on both cars. I had a hard time getting comfortable in it, it feels really small on the inside. Not really sure how it’s different from the BMW X5, X3 and X1 having the “legendary” dual-kidney grille, the Audi Q5 and Q7 having the massive, gaping maw from their sedan models, or the Chevrolet Equinox having the Cruze-alike front end it possesses. Are EV Batteries an Environmental Hot Mess? Yet Mitsubishi committed a cardinal sin by endowing their vehicles (which, by the way, share many components) with similar styling cues over several model years. Search pre-owned 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution listings to find the best local deals. We DO have terms for them, you guys are just mis-using the terms. 5.3 gals/ 100 miles . I tracked the heck out of mine until last year, and even though it eats consumables (3600 lbs will do that to you), it was heaven on the track. I drove a C63, M3, S4, and ISF before I settled on an Evo X MR. Thanks for replying Michael. Let them stare. And as I said, the cost savings of a manual is a nice bonus. The 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer is a compact five passenger vehicle available in sedan, hatchback and sport sedan trim levels. Says who? That one wasn’t much stiffer than the WRX, but they tweaked it again a couple of years ago. The definition relates to operations performed independently or with self regulation. The 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is a great car for those who value speed and grip above all else. Combined MPG: 19. combined. Much better choices for that kind of money. Shop 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution vehicles for sale in Seattle, WA at Cars.com. The 1 M might have come closer in character to the Evo, but I haven’t driven one. Which I get, I have a DSG and I do prefer the feel of performing the clutch work myself. In these economy- and-refinement-minded times, this is not a common occurrence. 631. Walk softly and carry a big stick, said Teddy Roosevelt. This Vehicle $ 386 /month -Because the numbers alone rarely communicate either. MSRP: $34,495: Engine: 2.0L I-4: MPG: 17 city / 23 hwy: Explore Build & Price (MR) 4dr Sedan. The Evo feels right to me, the Z doesn’t. That the Evo’s manual is only a five speed with a short top gear would make the choice between them all the harder. For a reminder of what’s missing from nearly every car sold today, we still need the Evo. Private Seller Car - New South Wales View matching dealer cars Have a similar car to sell? The 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution has 5 problems & defects reported by Lancer Evolution owners. If you look at the design and engineering of the DSG, you will see it is a manual transmission with an automated clutch assembly. For example, (if I were ever in the market for an automatic) I INSIST to know if said “automatic” is a CVT. Technology moves on. Admittedly my personal experience with the automated clutch automatic is limited to a long weekend driving Ford’s “powershift” DCT in the current Focus, but if that’s the comparison, I’d rather have a torque converter automatic any day (if I can’t have a manual). It IS a “high strung” and “frantic” car, and I love it. Though I guess there’d then be the problem of safely storing it when not driving the car somewhere the wing made sense. I’ve owned it for almost exactly 4 years now. My daily driver/occasional autocross steed is a Z34, and I haven’t had any unsettling experiences dodging either potholes or cones. I also like it in traffic when I do not have to mess with the clutch. The evo and all its techno-wizardry in comparison is predictable, but that could be from me spending WAY more hours in it than the 1m. I’ve spent 600 miles in one, it’s much nicer on the inside. I respect that. It will only go as low as the engine revs allow, perhaps stopping at 4th. GT models gain 18-inch alloy wheels, a sport-tuned suspension, automatic climate control, FUSE voice-recognition software with Bluetooth hands-free phone capability, a USB port for MP3 players, and sport seats. It’s also 20k more and seemed to me like one of those cars that is secretly out to kill you in the turns. Of course, it’s no Audi (and I’ve owned Audis), but in MR trim, it’s pretty nice. And all of your comments on the WRX were how much softer it was than the EVO. The harder you drive the Evo, the better it feels, and the better you feel…as long as you ignore the fuel economy readout. And, the SST transmission is wonderful. Description: Used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR with AWD, Brembo Brake Package, Keyless Entry, Fog Lights, Spoiler, Tinted Windows, Folding Mirrors, Limited Slip Differential, Black Grille, Recaro Seats, and Independent Suspension. The wing does add downforce at speeds over 90 MPH, so unless you track the car it’s pretty much an adornment. Voice-Activated HDD NavigationThe Lancer’s hard drive-based navigation system responds more quickly than traditional DVD-based units. 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution CJ Manual 4WD MY13. The other part that is hard, is the maturing of the STI and Evo has added cost but the rally performance game has not been moved on, these cars have about the same HP as they always did while other options like Camaro or Mustang or Genesis have popped up with more power and Brembo brakes. "Mini Paceman; A Lesson In Economies Of Scale", "Suspension Truth #2: Sport Suspensions – The Illusion of Performance", Ford Mustang Mach-E: Right Car, Wrong Name. The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X still offers astonishing performance despite being around since 2008, but some rivals offer better all-round value for money. Of course, you can get far more bang for your buck in a Mustang. The VW DSG has 6 gears, just like the manual. Oh, and in CJs eyes it does make you less of a man, I think thats why I even bothered to comment in the first place. Read 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer car reviews and compare 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer prices and features at carsales.com.au. Find your perfect car, truck or SUV at Auto.com. For that matter, any automatic that I’ve seen can be shifted manually, so that hardly makes any automatic, torque-converted or clutched, into a ‘manual’. What I find interesting is that the more positive Z reviews out there praise it for providing an involving driving experience – but this merely points to your final statement; there’s plenty of subjectivity there. But I just couldn’t live with a car I can’t fold the seats down to carry odd stuff. It simply is on a different level when it comes to driver involvement. But you can go back a decade and the Evo has always had much friskier character than the STI. That said, I’d personally have the STi and just put a set of aftermarket sway bars on it with a significantly larger rear sway on it to cancel some understeer, and call it a day. The Evo is a boat in comparison on the inside. The active rear diff that pushes power to the outside wheel in a turn creates a completely neutral handling car. The 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution carries over mostly unchanged. The styling of the 2013 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is reminiscent of a racecar. As someone who just picked up a 2012 Evo X MR and had a 2011 WRX Sti Sedan believe me the MR is a much more serious machine. Then again, how many people actually rally an Evo? The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, commonly referred to as 'Evo', is a sports sedan based on the Lancer that was manufactured by Japanese manufacturer Mitsubishi Motors from 1992 until 2016. ⦠One of the few cars that actually pulls off the angry dustbuster/widemouth bass face. ;-). Prices for the 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution range from $5,800 to $13,990. And I own a GTI with a DSG. “I prefer the involvement of shifting for myself”. The values listed below are based on MSRP and does not include any incentives, trade-in, options, or other adjustments. A continuously variable transmission (CVT) serves as the automatic transmission option for the workaday Lancers, while a twin-clutch Sportronic Shift automatic is available for the Evolution. However, given the vast difference in driving experience between a torque converter automatic and some sort of automated clutch automatic, isn’t it worth mentioning which type of automatic we’re talking about? Tastes do legitimately differ. Automatic. It’s rare, but I’m with CJ on this one. It just strikes me as funny that you’re willing to defend the Evo for all its real/perceived faults, like the chintzy interior and NVH in a $40k+ car. Two of my friends went down the DSG route for a while. The Lancer Evolution is powered by a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder turbocharged engine that produces 291 hp and 300 lb-ft ⦠My best friend and his wife bought his and hers TDIs this summer. We have a term for this – “automatic transmission”. Evo X is older so it’s vice versa at least per wikipedia: The damn thing can shift faster than I ever could. Drive the Evo in the suburbs without a concern for gas mileage and mid-teens happen. I do appreciate that you take the opposite tact with the Evo here, though. Description: Used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR with AWD, Brembo Brake Package, Keyless Entry, Fog Lights, Spoiler, Tinted Windows, Folding Mirrors, Limited Slip Differential, Black Grille, Recaro Seats, and Independent Suspension. And my car is almost a half sec faster to 60 than the manual version. Search Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 2012 listings near you. Great car too, more “raw” than the X, but in the end, I sold the IX after about a year, because it just wasn’t as good of an all-around car (street and track) as the X. I daily drove an Evo VIII for 6 years before trading it in for an Evo X GSR 2 years ago. For both of them the cars served as transitions to cars with conventional automatics, which drive the same but don’t require as much maintenance. What you all are describing is the manual clutch, and you prefer to do the clutching yourself. . While there are plenty of more-fuel-efficient choices in the category, few can match the vibrant driving experience and diverse model range provided by the Lancer. More important the GT got a nice suspension tune and some decent Brembo brakes. DSG/SST transmissions give you that option. Shop millions of cars from over 21,000 dealers and find the perfect car. It really isn’t intrusive at all. The Evo is visceral, yet it carries 4 people in comfort (Has more usable interior room than my Mazdaspeed3 wagon), suspension is set up for light track duty and I alternate between Pilot Supersport II and Blizzak tires. You don´t have any use for race spec wheels, unless you drive like a maniac. Those are the kind of gems that make a review something to savor and remember. It’s about handling. “Automated, dual-clutch manual transmission” is marketing BS. Despite being often overlooked by C-segment shoppers, the 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer makes a strong case for itself with its standard features, range of available options, and sportier higher-trim models. Not having a clutch has nothing to do with the definition of an automatic transmission. Also, the interior really isn’t that bad. If I made a super duper wet clutch automatic I’d want to call it something different in the market too. Though the Evo pairs a no-longer-so-impressive 291 horsepower with a 3,600-pound curb weight, it’s not one of those cars. Considering the terminology and what’s involved, it doesn’t make any sense. Material: Fiberglass. What can you get for under $30,000? Well, my wife would. Even the actual name of the tranmission: AUTOMATED dual clutch MANUAL transmission, describes exactly what it is. 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution trims (2) Viewing (GSR) 4dr Sedan. Those might “industry terms” but not “industry standard terms”, Are you taking these terms from SAE or another standards organization? 1. It may well be that this is the very best automatic transmission invented to date by man, but I don’t care. Review: 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR. By Michael Karesh on September 7, 2012 . Either Subaru is a better everyday car, but I very much doubt (based on my experience with previous cars and what I’ve read about the current ones) that they provide the intensity of experience you get in the Evo. I think beyond the point that these terms are loose and not standardized like you think they are, others are making the point that an automatic shifted box is an automatic. I was all hyped up for this cool dual clutch stuff but it still feels the same, something else is shifting for you. The Ralliart trim starts just under $29,000 with the Evolution coming in around $35,000. If you feel the need to employ the lovely column-mounted magnesium paddles, you’re just not thinking clearly enough. Amen. The Evo X has more room in it than almost every sports car I looked at. And compared to something like a Vette the Evo is cavernous (I’ve taken a road trip in a Vette). He can be reached at 248-295-2082. Detailed features and specs for the Used 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution including fuel economy, transmission, warranty, engine type, cylinders, drivetrain and more. Chrome accents, color-keyed body pieces and exterior features vary by trim level, successively growing nicer as the dollar signs move upward. The WRX was made slightly more sporting that it was in 2008, and the STI was made even more so. Judging from the Evo’s firm Recaro seats, firmer ride, ever-present exhaust boom, and 1990s econo-car interior, one might think Mitsubishi did nothing to make the car suitable for daily driving. Do I need to embrace my inner 16-year-old? The Cockpit. Get in-depth info on the 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution model year including prices, specs, reviews, pictures, safety and reliability ratings. Shop millions of cars from over 21,000 dealers and find the perfect car. 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